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Final Season of 4-UP



Little change from my earlier post - instead of shutting down the PPV games also, I'm just going to be shutting down 4-UP.

The automated emails and the chat room will also be going away. But the PPV games will remain. However, don't expect that every PPV will be scored the night of the show! Sometimes it may take a day.




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# rayclough73
rayclough73
U can't do that, I understand that U don't like wrestling anymore, but think of the loyal fans like me, TheProdigyCJB and edawg32 please, U could at least, idk, give the site to someone else to run, please this site means so much to me and others, please I am actually begging right now, don't shut it down, just cus U don't like wrestling right now, don't take away this wonderful site from everyone else.

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 10:52 AM
# cletus42o

Site Owner
cletus42o
Administrator of
WrestleHut 2000

It costs money to run the site and it also takes a lot of time to handle the PPV and 4-UP scoring. I'm getting married next summer so I won't have much time to do anything on the site for a while around that.

I can leave up the site so people can still post blogs but all of the games would be in limbo.

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Season 24 Overall Rank: #748 (Rank in League: #8)
# cymru96
cymru96
Member of
Europe's Elite

Every problem has a solution. I would be happy to help out along with rayclough73 and many others I'm sure. I understand that it is expensive to run and it must be tough once you've lost interest but I'm sure that something can be done.

I suggest that we post a blog brainstorming ideas to keep the site fresh, busy and most importantly, alive.

Save 4-down!

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 11:11 AM
# cletus42o

Site Owner
cletus42o
Administrator of
WrestleHut 2000

The only piece of the site I built so that people could help with was the 4-UP scoring. I didn't build the PPV scoring system with having help in mind.

The only way anything will change is if somehow I started making money running the site as opposed to spending money running it. Then I could justify continuing to run it even if I'm not as big of a fan of wrestling anymore.

Maybe I will bring it back one day and give it a good overhaul though. I'll never get rid of the domain.

I'll leave the site up but obviously it'll just be stuck in whatever the final season is. The automated emails and the chat room will be shut off. (these will probably go away sooner rather than later - it's about $70/month just for those 2 things) Blogs will still be able to be posted and new people will still be able to sign up but other than that the site will be stagnant.

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Season 24 Overall Rank: #748 (Rank in League: #8)
# nighte
nighte
oh no this is really going to suck. You guys are the only one's that listen to my crazy ideas about upcoming PPV. I'm all for brainstorming to save the site, I wish i had the income to support it. Cause I love this site as well as the rest of you.

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM
Season 24 Overall Rank: #814
# jmt5887
jmt5887
Member of
Big Show's Big League

I was gonna see if some friends I work with on a project on the side wanted to come here and compete against me. since the site is gonna go away i guess that won't be possible now. It would have been easier to do the scoring here. I'll think of something. oh well it's been fun.

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 12:09 PM
# NeedRepairs
NeedRepairs
Member of
The /wooo/ World Order

Man, you and me both. To be honest, I was going to take an indefinite break from entering 4-UP data at the end of the season. Not because it was annoying or anything, I didn't mind at all when I was actually enjoying WWE's shows, but for a long time now I've just been skimming through them on YT for the results because I couldn't stand watching the shows in their entirety anymore. And now it's gotten to the point that I don't even want to skim through them because I have so little interest in the current product.

If this is the end, I'm perfectly fine with that. Been a great ride. :)

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM
Season 24 Overall Rank: #78 (Rank in League: #27)
# cletus42o

Site Owner
cletus42o
Administrator of
WrestleHut 2000

Thanks for all the help NeedRepairs and nighte (and wwefan18 of course)!

I may decide to just cut out the automated emails, chat room, and 4-UP, and keep the PPV prediction games going. (but with the stipulation that results may not always get entered the night of the PPV) I'll think about that. I'm sure I'll still follow what's going on with PPVs but I barely watch Raw anymore, so handling PPVs wouldn't be THAT difficult to do.

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 1:05 PM
Season 24 Overall Rank: #748 (Rank in League: #8)
# edawg32
edawg32
Administrator of
Game On

I knew this was coming soon. So if I get this right, we can still post blogs and stuff right? We just can't do PPV predictions and 4UP correct?

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 1:29 PM
Season 24 Overall Rank: #725 (Rank in League: #17)
# cletus42o

Site Owner
cletus42o
Administrator of
WrestleHut 2000

edawg32 I decided I'll keep the PPV games since I know I'll still see what happens on the shows. 4-UP is what takes the most time to do, and the emails/chat room are what cost me money. I'll probably still give out prizes every now and then but it will not be as often. Might just be for season winners.

Now, if Shawn Michaels makes a return, things will change. :)

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 1:33 PM
Season 24 Overall Rank: #748 (Rank in League: #8)
# joshmeboy
joshmeboy
Member of
WWE Universe

COME BACK SHAWN MICHAELS!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 6:46 PM
# wwefan18
wwefan18
Member of
WrestleHut 2000

This sucks. I actually love posting the results of 4-UP. I don't want it to go and I've been a data admin since season one and I am not ready to stop doing it. This is horrible. I wish 4-UP would stay, but everything good must come to an end, I suppose. I just hope you'll change your mind, Spencer.

ps. Congrats on getting engaged and soon-to-be married. Lucky gal, I suppose. LOL. Good luck with your wedding and marriage though. Wish you all the best.

Posted on November 11, 2011 at 11:01 PM
# cletus42o

Site Owner
cletus42o
Administrator of
WrestleHut 2000

wwefan18 I appreciate all the help you've given over the years! But now you can focus that energy on posting blogs about PPVs, maybe get more people playing the PPV games. :)

The truth is 4-UP doesn't get nearly the attention the PPV games do from players. But it takes probably 20x the effort from the admins and me to run. So it just makes sense to cut that one.

The reason why I was originally saying everything might shut down is because cutting 4-UP out actually is going to take a decent amount of work from me just to cut it out of the site. I'm going to leave the section there on the left, but I'll need to remove it from the main rankings pages/etc. (it will be easy to add it back if I decide to, I'll just be commenting it out)

Anyway, I appreciate all the messages everyone has left and sent via PM. Trust me, the site means a lot to me, too. In fact I've always been so adamant about getting PPV results in the night of the show because of how much I love running the site and getting to see people's reactions to their rankings immediately after a show ends.

So - 4-UP will be out, emails will be out (not confirmation emails for signing up or emails you get about blog comments - those don't go through the automated system), and probably the chat room (though I may leave it - it's been getting more use it seems like). And I am going to add a notice to the PPV page letting players know NOT to always expect results to go in the night of the show. That will help alleviate the stress I get when I have a vacation planned before knowing a PPV is happening during it!

Posted on November 12, 2011 at 3:43 PM
Season 24 Overall Rank: #748 (Rank in League: #8)
# Whammer1
Whammer1
Member of
Europe's Elite

To be honest, if cletus42o feels the need to cut things, he should. He made and runs the site, so he knows best about the issues this site produces.

Posted on November 14, 2011 at 11:59 AM
Season 24 Overall Rank: #241 (Rank in League: #3)
# word2k9
word2k9
Member of
Big Show's Big League

Thanks for clearing things up Cletus.

While the site traffic has remained unchanged, the quantity of blogs has been steadily decreasing. Almost every user who has commented on the situation has been a blogger. We, the bloggers, are beginning a renaissance for the 4down blogs.

Posted on November 16, 2011 at 7:12 PM
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